Talk:Johnny Silverhand

Real Name
I just skimmed through the Rockerboy sourcebook (and by that I mean I turned the PDF of the book into text and searched inside it), and I can't find any mention of Johnny's real name being Robert John Linder. Is that really the source for it? Mikotoh (talk) 09:29, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't know where it was, but it was mentioned in one of the books. Maybe the now deemed non-canon CyberGen or V3.0. But in Cyberpunk 2077 there is his name confirmed. I will fix the reference as I see in the edit history it got jumbled.ArasakaApart (talk) 10:07, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Gotcha. I ask because I'm editing something on TvTropes related to his dog tags, but I wanted to find a source for his name being Robert John Linder. Like, either way he's misremembering things, but I'm not sure if he's misremembering his real name, or that his buddy took a bullet for him in the war. It's gotta be one or the other. Mikotoh (talk) 10:11, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

Johnny in the War
While in in the war, John's life was saved by a friend who died protecting him.

Is this from one of the sourcebacks, or is this based solely on Johnny's claim about his dog tags belonging to someone else? Because if it's the latter, it probably isn't true. Mikotoh (talk) 05:03, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Just from the game, I think. Although in one of the TTRPG books, CyberGeneration maybe (so it's not considered part of the canon), it is said he had likely taken his name from a friend who died in the war. It's a little over the place, yeah. --Ryon21 Ryon21 Signature Image.png (talk) 10:00, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
 * As part of an effort to touch up the occasional article to improve syntax/sentence structure and grammar, I also attempt to re-phrase certain portions for greater context and/or clarity. In this instance, I touched up some of the language surrounding this to frame it more clearly as deriving from the memories encoded in Johnny's engram, which, as we know, differ from the events as previously recorded. –MateoDojima (talk) 12:56, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Arasaka Towers vs. Arasaka Tower
From what I've been able to gather, after the 2013 attack, but prior to and including the events of August 20th, 2023, the North American HQ for Arasaka Corporation in Night City was a complex of towers known as the Arasaka Towers (plural). The towers consisted of two twin skyscrapers and two smaller officer towers. Arasaka Tower (singular) as it is encountered in 2077 was erected over the site where the towers were dropped by the nuke. For the sake of consistency, chronicity, and distinguishing between these three tower phases, I think we should refer to 'Saka HQ in the attack of 2013 as "tower," but as "towers" from August 6th, 2013 through August 20th, 2023. –MateoDojima (talk) 12:56, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
 * As far as I can find it is just called and designated to as "Arasaka Tower." It is nowhere ever called "Arasaka Towers," other than on images where it shows multiple "towers" that split off after sharing the same base, effectively making it a single tower. This is from the 2013 sourcebook throughout all of the 2020 source- and adventure books, and even in Cyberpunk RED. Maybe it needs more clarification, since this assumption is being made on the images, and not the actual written text. An image is a visual reference, not a written reference, which should take prevalence, since it is more likely to be subject to revision. ArasakaApart (talk) 13:21, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Towers in plural is how it's referred to in Cyberpunk RED. Even the title of the story is "The Fall of the Towers." My guess is that this is done to differentiate it from 2077. --Ryon21 Ryon21 Signature Image.png (talk) 15:07, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
 * As a side note, there are three iterations of the building. From the 1990s until 2013 it was a single building known as Arasaka Tower. From 2013 to 2023, a new complex was built known as the Arasaka Towers. And since the 2070s a new one known as Arasaka Tower. I've read plenty of 2013, 2020, RED, 2077, discord and Reddit to be sure about this. I also know that it was labelled as just Arasaka Tower in a number of the 2020 era books, but RED changed it to the plural. Either way, they are three buildings with lots of history. I just created the 2013 redirect to point the difference. --Ryon21 Ryon21 Signature Image.png (talk) 15:14, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for doing that work, Ryon! Much appreciated! My hope as a contributor here is really more to help clean up the diction and grammar in some of the articles rather than correct facts, so when I saw tower and towers being used somewhat interchangeably, I went down a small rabbit hole on this one and got a little lost. I just wanted to make sure Johnny's article was as clear as I could get it. –MateoDojima (talk) 18:04, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Not a problem at all. Any questions you may have, ask with no worries. This is a collaboration effort, so contributions are always appreciated! --Ryon21 Ryon21 Signature Image.png (talk) 18:17, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Sourcebooks
While making some edits I ran into an issue with what appeared to have been a weird link under Trivia for a reference to a Cyberpunk 2013supplement entitled Welcome to Night City. It states, "Johnny Silverhand first appears in the Cyberpunk 2013 supplementary booklet, Welcome to Night City, within the mini adventure "Never Fade Away." It's possible the link for this Welcome To Night Citywent weird because I needed to transfer my pre-edits in Word to another PC, but it was the only link in my edits to do that. The link came back as "blob:https://mail.proton.me/fd46db8d-7046-4edb-9888-8676cf5b4bb8#Welcome_to_Night_City." Is there an actual link or page for this supplementary booklet? I tried finding it in the fandom, as well as under R. Talsorian's product listing, but the closest thing I can find in name is the Night City sourcebook. ~ MateoDojima (talk) 21:59, 25 October 2023 (UTC)


 * It's one of the supplementary books provided with Cyberpunk 2013. Cyberpunk 2013. You can link to it using   ArasakaApart (talk) 22:08, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
 * As a side note (if I understood this right), unlike 2020, Cyberpunk 2013 is instead a compilation of 3 books (noted in the page). So technically there is not a proper CP2013. --Ryon21 Ryon21 Signature Image.png (talk) 22:37, 25 October 2023 (UTC)